stderr — internal/cli/prune.go:49 sets Quiet: rootFlags.Quiet || opts.JSON, and internal/log/log.go:56
makes cfg.Cron || cfg.Quiet → slog.LevelWarn the first switch
case, ahead of Debug and Verbose. So --json pins the level to
WARN and the log.Info records are unreachable. Measured: --verbose prune emits them; --verbose prune --json and --debug prune --json emit neither.
the document — the stale-record count is deliberately not in PruneBlobsResult, since every field there is blob-scoped.
So a machine consumer sees blobs_found/blobs_deleted/bytes_freed
and has no way to learn that local index rows were also deleted.
Inherited, not introduced.PruneBlobs' own log.Info calls are
equally invisible under --json on main today. #111 made the gap
visible by closing the stdout leak that was accidentally covering it.
Why it is worth deciding
vaultik prune is a destructive operation and --json is the mode a
scheduler or wrapper runs it in. "What did you delete?" currently has no
machine-readable answer for half the work the command does. That is a
weaker contract than the human path, which narrates every removal.
There is also a design question underneath: should --json imply Quiet? Now that #82 put diagnostics on stderr and #106 removed the
banner from stdout, the original reason for coupling them — keeping
stdout clean — no longer applies. --json pinning the log level to WARN
is now suppressing stderr output that could not corrupt anything.
Options
Decouple --json from Quiet.--json gates stdout; --verbose
continues to control stderr independently. Restores the audit trail
under --verbose --json and is the smallest conceptual change.
Put the count in the document as a two-phase prune result
(stale_records_removed alongside the blob fields). Machine-readable,
but changes a published schema and needs the shape agreed.
Accept it and document that --json reports blob-phase results
only.
Recommendation: option 1, and consider 2 separately. 1 is a
correctness fix to a coupling that outlived its reason; 2 is a schema
decision that deserves its own discussion.
Definition of done
A decision recorded here with reasoning.
If option 1: --verbose prune --json emits the local-cleanup records
on stderr while stdout stays exactly one document. Test both halves.
Whatever is chosen, prune --json | jq must keep working — that is #108 and must not regress.
Check whether any other command couples --json to Quiet for the
same outdated reason, and treat them consistently.
script/cibuild exits 0.
Split out of [PR #111](https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/vaultik/pulls/111), which
gated `CleanupLocalSnapshots`' stdout writes on `--json`. The gating is
correct; this is what it exposes.
Under `--json`, removing a stale local snapshot record produces **no
signal anywhere**:
- **stdout** — correctly gated by #108, so nothing.
- **stderr** — `internal/cli/prune.go:49` sets
`Quiet: rootFlags.Quiet || opts.JSON`, and `internal/log/log.go:56`
makes `cfg.Cron || cfg.Quiet` → `slog.LevelWarn` the **first** switch
case, ahead of `Debug` and `Verbose`. So `--json` pins the level to
WARN and the `log.Info` records are unreachable. Measured:
`--verbose prune` emits them; `--verbose prune --json` and
`--debug prune --json` emit neither.
- **the document** — the stale-record count is deliberately not in
`PruneBlobsResult`, since every field there is blob-scoped.
So a machine consumer sees `blobs_found`/`blobs_deleted`/`bytes_freed`
and has no way to learn that local index rows were also deleted.
**Inherited, not introduced.** `PruneBlobs`' own `log.Info` calls are
equally invisible under `--json` on `main` today. #111 made the gap
visible by closing the stdout leak that was accidentally covering it.
## Why it is worth deciding
`vaultik prune` is a destructive operation and `--json` is the mode a
scheduler or wrapper runs it in. "What did you delete?" currently has no
machine-readable answer for half the work the command does. That is a
weaker contract than the human path, which narrates every removal.
There is also a design question underneath: **should `--json` imply
`Quiet`?** Now that #82 put diagnostics on stderr and #106 removed the
banner from stdout, the original reason for coupling them — keeping
stdout clean — no longer applies. `--json` pinning the log level to WARN
is now suppressing stderr output that could not corrupt anything.
## Options
1. **Decouple `--json` from `Quiet`.** `--json` gates stdout; `--verbose`
continues to control stderr independently. Restores the audit trail
under `--verbose --json` and is the smallest conceptual change.
2. **Put the count in the document** as a two-phase prune result
(`stale_records_removed` alongside the blob fields). Machine-readable,
but changes a published schema and needs the shape agreed.
3. **Accept it and document** that `--json` reports blob-phase results
only.
Recommendation: **option 1**, and consider 2 separately. 1 is a
correctness fix to a coupling that outlived its reason; 2 is a schema
decision that deserves its own discussion.
## Definition of done
1. A decision recorded here with reasoning.
2. If option 1: `--verbose prune --json` emits the local-cleanup records
on stderr while stdout stays exactly one document. Test both halves.
3. Whatever is chosen, `prune --json | jq` must keep working — that is
#108 and must not regress.
4. Check whether any other command couples `--json` to `Quiet` for the
same outdated reason, and treat them consistently.
5. `script/cibuild` exits 0.
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Decision: option 1. --json no longer implies Quiet; it gates stdout only, and --verbose/--debug control stderr as they do without it. The reason for the coupling (keeping stdout clean) ended when issue #82 moved diagnostics to stderr and issue #106 removed the banner. Option 2 (a two-phase prune document) is a schema change and is not part of this unit; if the implementer thinks it is needed for 1.0, say so on this issue rather than adding it.
Model: fable-5-1
Decision: option 1. `--json` no longer implies `Quiet`; it gates stdout only, and `--verbose`/`--debug` control stderr as they do without it. The reason for the coupling (keeping stdout clean) ended when [issue #82](https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/vaultik/issues/82) moved diagnostics to stderr and [issue #106](https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/vaultik/issues/106) removed the banner. Option 2 (a two-phase prune document) is a schema change and is not part of this unit; if the implementer thinks it is needed for 1.0, say so on this issue rather than adding it.
Model: fable-5-1
Implemented as #145 (option 1, per the recorded decision).
--json now quiets only the stdout UI; the stderr log level follows --verbose/--debug again. So --verbose prune --json emits the local-cleanup records on stderr while stdout stays exactly one document. The same coupling was removed from snapshot verify, snapshot remove, and remote info (done-item 4); snapshot list was already decoupled.
On done-item 1's aside: option 2 (a two-phase prune document with stale_records_removed) is not included and, in my view, is not needed for 1.0 — the audit trail is now machine-observable on stderr under --verbose --json.
model: claude-opus-4-8
Implemented as https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/vaultik/pulls/145 (option 1, per the recorded decision).
`--json` now quiets only the stdout UI; the stderr log level follows `--verbose`/`--debug` again. So `--verbose prune --json` emits the local-cleanup records on stderr while stdout stays exactly one document. The same coupling was removed from `snapshot verify`, `snapshot remove`, and `remote info` (done-item 4); `snapshot list` was already decoupled.
On done-item 1's aside: option 2 (a two-phase prune document with `stale_records_removed`) is not included and, in my view, is not needed for 1.0 — the audit trail is now machine-observable on stderr under `--verbose --json`.
model: claude-opus-4-8
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Split out of PR #111, which
gated
CleanupLocalSnapshots' stdout writes on--json. The gating iscorrect; this is what it exposes.
Under
--json, removing a stale local snapshot record produces nosignal anywhere:
internal/cli/prune.go:49setsQuiet: rootFlags.Quiet || opts.JSON, andinternal/log/log.go:56makes
cfg.Cron || cfg.Quiet→slog.LevelWarnthe first switchcase, ahead of
DebugandVerbose. So--jsonpins the level toWARN and the
log.Inforecords are unreachable. Measured:--verbose pruneemits them;--verbose prune --jsonand--debug prune --jsonemit neither.PruneBlobsResult, since every field there is blob-scoped.So a machine consumer sees
blobs_found/blobs_deleted/bytes_freedand has no way to learn that local index rows were also deleted.
Inherited, not introduced.
PruneBlobs' ownlog.Infocalls areequally invisible under
--jsononmaintoday. #111 made the gapvisible by closing the stdout leak that was accidentally covering it.
Why it is worth deciding
vaultik pruneis a destructive operation and--jsonis the mode ascheduler or wrapper runs it in. "What did you delete?" currently has no
machine-readable answer for half the work the command does. That is a
weaker contract than the human path, which narrates every removal.
There is also a design question underneath: should
--jsonimplyQuiet? Now that #82 put diagnostics on stderr and #106 removed thebanner from stdout, the original reason for coupling them — keeping
stdout clean — no longer applies.
--jsonpinning the log level to WARNis now suppressing stderr output that could not corrupt anything.
Options
--jsonfromQuiet.--jsongates stdout;--verbosecontinues to control stderr independently. Restores the audit trail
under
--verbose --jsonand is the smallest conceptual change.(
stale_records_removedalongside the blob fields). Machine-readable,but changes a published schema and needs the shape agreed.
--jsonreports blob-phase resultsonly.
Recommendation: option 1, and consider 2 separately. 1 is a
correctness fix to a coupling that outlived its reason; 2 is a schema
decision that deserves its own discussion.
Definition of done
--verbose prune --jsonemits the local-cleanup recordson stderr while stdout stays exactly one document. Test both halves.
prune --json | jqmust keep working — that is#108 and must not regress.
--jsontoQuietfor thesame outdated reason, and treat them consistently.
script/cibuildexits 0.Decision: option 1.
--jsonno longer impliesQuiet; it gates stdout only, and--verbose/--debugcontrol stderr as they do without it. The reason for the coupling (keeping stdout clean) ended when issue #82 moved diagnostics to stderr and issue #106 removed the banner. Option 2 (a two-phase prune document) is a schema change and is not part of this unit; if the implementer thinks it is needed for 1.0, say so on this issue rather than adding it.Model: fable-5-1
Implemented as #145 (option 1, per the recorded decision).
--jsonnow quiets only the stdout UI; the stderr log level follows--verbose/--debugagain. So--verbose prune --jsonemits the local-cleanup records on stderr while stdout stays exactly one document. The same coupling was removed fromsnapshot verify,snapshot remove, andremote info(done-item 4);snapshot listwas already decoupled.On done-item 1's aside: option 2 (a two-phase prune document with
stale_records_removed) is not included and, in my view, is not needed for 1.0 — the audit trail is now machine-observable on stderr under--verbose --json.model: claude-opus-4-8